I have had held similar thoughts but have thought that we should extend such “shunning” to our hospital facilities.
Allow me a moment..
generally, the first reaction I received when I had I asserted this ideas with others is that … you cannot deny basic medical assistance to anyone in Canada and then of course I am reminded of the Hippocratic oath.
However, my concept is not to preclude them from receiving medical attention when necessary but rather to set up specialized units away from our general hospital facilities where the unvaccinated would be forced to go to receive any meds attention.
In this manner… Hospitals can then get back to helping heal the sick and perform the daunting task of trying to restore all the surgical appointments that have been delayed many of which are/were medically necessary.
I am more aware of people who have had medical appointments either cancelled altogether or delayed because our doctors are too preoccupied maintaining ERs that are filled with mainly unvaccinated people or
those who have become infected from the unvaccinated.
I personally have had enough.
If they choose to remain unvaccinated then they should be able to simply go off somewhere in the corner and die quietly without a whimper but please let’s restore all the medicals that are necessary for those of us (The overwhelming majority) who have chosen to be vaccinated.
Jerry, thanks for your kind words and I agree with your sentiment about health care. As I have no influence over that, I was just trying to suggest a way that each individual can quietly express their displeasure at anti-vaccers. The person mentioned in my #3 comment was mighty annoyed when I asked they reconfirm their unvaccinated status- one can only hope for the return of reason. Take care and stay safe.
Hi Brian, This is what I have been thinking and yet... challenging for two of my kids. Their Dad and many in that family have chosen to go down the FOX rabbit hole of non-science, while claiming that they need to research more. How does a 22 year old Shun his dad (who already emotionally manipulates with aplomb)? Well, currently he just avoids going over there, but he is very uncomfortable.
I was at the hospital for a whole series of pre-op stuff last week, on the day that the brainless protestors were out in force. There was NO parking for the bonafide patients, as it was all filled by those jerks. I wasn't happy. and I was astonished at how many people came out to protest. Loud. Minority, but loud. there are many far more important things to protest, IMHO.
Hi Brian, are you okay? You sound unwell by the looks of this post. I urge you to please get in touch with someone who cares about you and can help you. If that isn’t possible right now, there are people who care about your mental health at wannatalkaboutit.com.
You’ll be okay! Promise. We’ve all been pushed to our limits mentally these past couple years and unfortunately for some of us the cracks are really starting to show…
What danger are the "unvaccinated" to vaccinated people if the vaccine works? Either the vaccine works in which case we are protected from the virus or it doesn't work and we are all in the same boat vaccinated or not. That is the irrefutable science! Brian you sound as bad as the anti-vaccers you want to shun...
My issue with your thoughts is simply that every case of COVID starts from an unvaxed person—breakthrough cases would not occur if vaxed persons were not inadvertently exposed to the unvaxed; same with child cases, seniors cases, you name it. If all adults were vaxed, children would have no one to catch it from. The delta variant has raised the bar on vaccination to get to something approaching herd immunity. So that's the danger of the unvaxed. If they stay home and interact with nobody not also staying home, then no-vax works fine, but it's lonely.
That is patently false. I got covid from a vaccinated person. 6 people did.
Is that science enough? A fact?
I’m very disturbed over this shunning idea you present. That’s one of the things wrong with society today: abject assumptions of superiority over another person based merely on a dichotomy.
no time for silliness. The science and medicine ALL says vaccinate. The Internet may say different things, but when you drill down, you do NOT find science and medicine.
Non-player character. It's a term from tabletop RPGs, denoting a character that the players encounter that has a specific purpose, for instance, to let the players know there's a dragon nearby, and serves no other purpose. They recite from a script, never deviating except for a little leeway allowed to guide the conversation back to the pertinent topic.
Deletions are based on rude language such as your "NPC drivel," outright derogatory phrases such as those calling me a Nazi, faggot, etc. or deriding my gap tooth (seriously?), ranting comments that offer nothing of value, and then, of course, the threats to kill me and rape my family. I will post this, then delete you and any others who say things that any 6-year old would know are inappropriate. I will continue to leave comments that contribute to the conversation, even if I disagree with them. Cheers.
You're being dishonest. The comments I remember that you deleted had nothing to do with threats, they simply disagreed with your standpoint. You have since relented and seem to be leaving up a select number of comments that don't praise your point of view. I guess you were likely deluged.
I am not against vaccines in principle, however, the current slate of COVID-19 vaccines have already proven harmful, with elevated rates of myocarditis and autoimmune flares. Not only is it non-sterilizing (i.e. does not prevent transmission), it has rapidly declining effectiveness at preventing severe COVID-19 symptoms. Moreover, people who have taken this vaccine have rising neutrophilia and eosinophilia coupled with T and B lymphopenia. In other words, their adaptive immune system is in decline in a pattern reminiscent of AIDS.
This is actually what primary sources and government statistics are saying.
Frankly, my opinion is the exact opposite of yours. The vaccination campaign must be stopped immediately. No one should be allowed to take these vaccines, for their own safety.
Thanks for asking. I have deleted comments and banned commenters who threaten me and my family with bodily harm, call me racist or other inappropriate names. Is all
You're insane. People who think like you will literally bring about tyranny.
These "vaccines" do not provide sterile immunity. The "vaccinated" suffer fewer symptoms, but carry just as much live virus in their mucosal membranes as the unjabbed and can thus spread the disease just as easily as the unjabbed. In fact they can spread it even easier in some cases because with their lower symptoms they'll have a harder time knowing they're sick, but still be spreading it. This scenario has repeated countless times in stories covered in the media, but people like you continue to ignore those vaxxed-to-vaxxed transmission stories and blindly believe that you're saving other people's lives by getting a big-pharma shot.
You probably pride yourself on "following the science", but it's quite obvious you don't think for yourself, you just do what you're told, like a good little nazi.
This is just absolutely brilliant writing!
I have had held similar thoughts but have thought that we should extend such “shunning” to our hospital facilities.
Allow me a moment..
generally, the first reaction I received when I had I asserted this ideas with others is that … you cannot deny basic medical assistance to anyone in Canada and then of course I am reminded of the Hippocratic oath.
However, my concept is not to preclude them from receiving medical attention when necessary but rather to set up specialized units away from our general hospital facilities where the unvaccinated would be forced to go to receive any meds attention.
In this manner… Hospitals can then get back to helping heal the sick and perform the daunting task of trying to restore all the surgical appointments that have been delayed many of which are/were medically necessary.
I am more aware of people who have had medical appointments either cancelled altogether or delayed because our doctors are too preoccupied maintaining ERs that are filled with mainly unvaccinated people or
those who have become infected from the unvaccinated.
I personally have had enough.
If they choose to remain unvaccinated then they should be able to simply go off somewhere in the corner and die quietly without a whimper but please let’s restore all the medicals that are necessary for those of us (The overwhelming majority) who have chosen to be vaccinated.
Jerry, thanks for your kind words and I agree with your sentiment about health care. As I have no influence over that, I was just trying to suggest a way that each individual can quietly express their displeasure at anti-vaccers. The person mentioned in my #3 comment was mighty annoyed when I asked they reconfirm their unvaccinated status- one can only hope for the return of reason. Take care and stay safe.
That’s a compassionate response. Not!
Hi Brian, This is what I have been thinking and yet... challenging for two of my kids. Their Dad and many in that family have chosen to go down the FOX rabbit hole of non-science, while claiming that they need to research more. How does a 22 year old Shun his dad (who already emotionally manipulates with aplomb)? Well, currently he just avoids going over there, but he is very uncomfortable.
I was at the hospital for a whole series of pre-op stuff last week, on the day that the brainless protestors were out in force. There was NO parking for the bonafide patients, as it was all filled by those jerks. I wasn't happy. and I was astonished at how many people came out to protest. Loud. Minority, but loud. there are many far more important things to protest, IMHO.
Hi Brian, are you okay? You sound unwell by the looks of this post. I urge you to please get in touch with someone who cares about you and can help you. If that isn’t possible right now, there are people who care about your mental health at wannatalkaboutit.com.
You’ll be okay! Promise. We’ve all been pushed to our limits mentally these past couple years and unfortunately for some of us the cracks are really starting to show…
I am fine, thanks.
What danger are the "unvaccinated" to vaccinated people if the vaccine works? Either the vaccine works in which case we are protected from the virus or it doesn't work and we are all in the same boat vaccinated or not. That is the irrefutable science! Brian you sound as bad as the anti-vaccers you want to shun...
My issue with your thoughts is simply that every case of COVID starts from an unvaxed person—breakthrough cases would not occur if vaxed persons were not inadvertently exposed to the unvaxed; same with child cases, seniors cases, you name it. If all adults were vaxed, children would have no one to catch it from. The delta variant has raised the bar on vaccination to get to something approaching herd immunity. So that's the danger of the unvaxed. If they stay home and interact with nobody not also staying home, then no-vax works fine, but it's lonely.
That is patently false. I got covid from a vaccinated person. 6 people did.
Is that science enough? A fact?
I’m very disturbed over this shunning idea you present. That’s one of the things wrong with society today: abject assumptions of superiority over another person based merely on a dichotomy.
I’d saddens me we’ve declined this far.
Hi Brian, you will convince me to get vaccinated if you refute all of these points:
https://pdfhost.io/v/QF4HXs2F4_COVID_Vaccine_Hesitancy_v3_0
no time for silliness. The science and medicine ALL says vaccinate. The Internet may say different things, but when you drill down, you do NOT find science and medicine.
I didn't realize NPCs could write. Fascinating.
what's an NPC?
Non-player character. It's a term from tabletop RPGs, denoting a character that the players encounter that has a specific purpose, for instance, to let the players know there's a dragon nearby, and serves no other purpose. They recite from a script, never deviating except for a little leeway allowed to guide the conversation back to the pertinent topic.
You, in other words.
Thanks for the explanation, albeit inaccurate
Imagine thinking this is still about a virus.
Personally, I shun everyone who supports diversity (theft of our land).
please explain
I see you've been deleting comments you don't like.
Considering the childish views expressed in your cultish NPC drivel, I can not say that I'm surprised.
Deletions are based on rude language such as your "NPC drivel," outright derogatory phrases such as those calling me a Nazi, faggot, etc. or deriding my gap tooth (seriously?), ranting comments that offer nothing of value, and then, of course, the threats to kill me and rape my family. I will post this, then delete you and any others who say things that any 6-year old would know are inappropriate. I will continue to leave comments that contribute to the conversation, even if I disagree with them. Cheers.
You're being dishonest. The comments I remember that you deleted had nothing to do with threats, they simply disagreed with your standpoint. You have since relented and seem to be leaving up a select number of comments that don't praise your point of view. I guess you were likely deluged.
Not deluged once I deleted the hate and banned its posters
Well, that contradicts what I saw.
I wish I thought to make screencaps I could have linked too.
You're not being entirely truthful now.
I am not against vaccines in principle, however, the current slate of COVID-19 vaccines have already proven harmful, with elevated rates of myocarditis and autoimmune flares. Not only is it non-sterilizing (i.e. does not prevent transmission), it has rapidly declining effectiveness at preventing severe COVID-19 symptoms. Moreover, people who have taken this vaccine have rising neutrophilia and eosinophilia coupled with T and B lymphopenia. In other words, their adaptive immune system is in decline in a pattern reminiscent of AIDS.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC8270733/
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-021-00329-3
https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-612103/v1
https://www.docdroid.net/rI4T10M/covid-19-source-book-v3-copy-pdf
This is actually what primary sources and government statistics are saying.
Frankly, my opinion is the exact opposite of yours. The vaccination campaign must be stopped immediately. No one should be allowed to take these vaccines, for their own safety.
The legitimate science and medical sources say different.
Looks like you're having website problems. Lot of comments have disappeared. Curious.
Thanks for asking. I have deleted comments and banned commenters who threaten me and my family with bodily harm, call me racist or other inappropriate names. Is all
You're insane. People who think like you will literally bring about tyranny.
These "vaccines" do not provide sterile immunity. The "vaccinated" suffer fewer symptoms, but carry just as much live virus in their mucosal membranes as the unjabbed and can thus spread the disease just as easily as the unjabbed. In fact they can spread it even easier in some cases because with their lower symptoms they'll have a harder time knowing they're sick, but still be spreading it. This scenario has repeated countless times in stories covered in the media, but people like you continue to ignore those vaxxed-to-vaxxed transmission stories and blindly believe that you're saving other people's lives by getting a big-pharma shot.
You probably pride yourself on "following the science", but it's quite obvious you don't think for yourself, you just do what you're told, like a good little nazi.
You lost me at the friend... of a friend... of my daughter. That's four whole degrees of separation. That's all you can come up with?